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Greetings brother,

Hope u are doing ok.
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Not too bad, thanks. :)

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I have to say this to someone... how can RZ be agreeing to zero contact with the outer order and at the same time promote power week on the public forum?

He also has the gall to post about light and Rosicrucian values without any repenting, without any effort to repay all the members he took money from, without any letters of apology to all the people he has insulted and damaged throughout the years.

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From what I can gather the answer to both questions has to do with machismo and attention. Directly and indirectly. There was also something about how when you're putting someone into a trance, you're supposed to push and pull at the same time. In other words.... It's hot! it's cold! hot-cold! cold-hot! now your mind belongs to me. See how that works? or doesn't work? or neitherboth?

So, yeah, the "not talking to anyone in the outer" which was "voluntary" (which is the only reason he agreed to it was because he made it up all on his own, which had nothing to do, surely, with the mass exodus of people fed up with him having contact with the outer) was supposed to have one acception: 3 days of classes at Power Week. (originally that was a legitimate typo, but I left it that way since it was accidently clever – an *exception*... we’re all supposed to just *accept* - 4-5-11)

(By the way, any Isis members who want to sign up for powerweek can do so at http://www.golden-dawn-california.com under "members only" or by calling Isis directly at 626-960-6400 - and then you won't have have to have any contact with RZ in the application process, anyway, or with his website esoteric golden dawn dot com - and there's nothing prohibiting you from walking out of the room when RZ's around. I mean, you don't have to walk out *permanantly* but there is that option available to you as well.)

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Its like he insults everyone's intelligence.

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Take it as a compliment: he doesn't know that everyone's not actually that stupid!

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How does he think has the right to return to his position of power after what he has done. I so wish he would realise that people are not stupid. They are not there for him to play games with.

He will never regain anyones trust this way. The only way is by action to repay people and redress the balance again.

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Hopefully reading you saying so right now will help him to remember to do that. It's bascially the macho thing - the reasoning is "if I humble myself and apologize, then people will think of me as a lame old man apologizing, rather than the great pillar of daddy-strength everyone wants me to be" ("everyone" in this case being: just him).

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Ok forgiveness is one thing but to give him back the power and opportunity to damage people again is something totally else.

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I know, huh? That's been my point ever since “Love and Forgiveness” became the buzz-word bullet-points of the day.

There is Forgiveness, and there is being a Shlamazel:

Forgiveness is when you forgive someone and stop holding a grudge.

Being a Shlamazel is allowing the Schlemiel to come into your house knowing that they'll break all your stuff because they're a Schlemiel.

Forgiveness and being a Shlamazel are mutually exclusive.

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Well, as the Master said, "By their fruits ye shall know them" (not by their words and talk).

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Well, yes, but let's wait till he's passed on from this world to start inventing obscure compliments for him, lol.

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Since TDL is the imperator what is the role of PDR in the order?

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“Chief Magus,” if you ask him, but if you ask anyone of us who stayed he’s basically an amoral and sociopathic genius who’s been very very naughty and needs to not be talking to the outer right now, even though he still is, and TDL himself and various concerned adepti and portals and philosophi are trying to talk him out of it, and I’m sure he’s loving all the attention.

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PDR even tho he said he will change he is still writing in his f*** blocks and attacking other orders... what is his problem?!?! lol not that I like david gr. but its not right...

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His problem is... well, there’s probably more than one problem... I don’t know, lol. I’m just doin’ what I can on my end.

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in what way the inner and outer order are separated and who is governing each order? under what name are we finally registered and what name is the guys from ptah?

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As of now, from what I understand, Isis is going by “The Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn, Grand Temple of Isis Mighty Mother” and Ptah is going “The Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn, Grand Temple of Ptah” – and PDR and TDL are saying that Chic Cicero says Ptah should change its name, as if that would deter them – I am certain Griffin would be glad to give Ptah formal written permission to use the name as well – and certainly I would show up in court if need be to defend Ptah’s right to call themselves whatever the fuck they want to. (Needless to say, I disagree with PDR and TDL on a few points of politics.) (I've just heard word that the Ptah based Order has already changed their name to: "Order of the Golden Dawn" - 4-6-11)

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also is pdr planning to get rid of his esoteric golden dawn website since he is not allowed anymore to do stuff...

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I think it would take a judge and jury to get PDR to do anything he doesn’t want to do. And even that might not work.

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thank you for ur time frater.

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You’re welcome :)

770,



(p.s. Happy Birthday FDA!!!)

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